san gorgonio trail conditions

The Ernie Maxwell Scenic Trail has a well-traveled track to follow throughout, snow cover is 90%. Hard to believe being so close to the Los Angeles/Southern California area.Regarding San Gorgonio's elevation:In keeping with the standard (USGS) for determining US elevations, I have posted the height at 11,490 feet. Melting of snow on sun-exposed slopes and freeze-thaw cycles will combine to change trail conditions and potentially the preferred equipment for the terrain. Of course, this February was notable in that roughly 80% of the total fell all in the last week of the month, with no respite for significant melting. As we are limited to 6-person crews, it will be a little harder on the personnel but if you are out on the trail during the week, you might see us hard at work. It turned to occasional light snow at about 1500, but less than 0.5 inch has accumulated so far (at 5550 ft). Total Wages: Total wages reported by the employer from Box 5 of the W-2, with some exceptions, and Elected Officials who received pay reported on IRS Form 1099. At 11,499 feet, San Gorgonio Mountain is the highest peak in California south of the Sierra. The New-York based artist's work is now found at San Gorgonio Street and Bubbling Wells Road in Desert Hot Springs. In general most hikers will likely prefer to use spikes at least for descending down to about 10,000 ft (or lower). Eventually with compaction of the trails caused by increasing hiker traffic and freeze/thaw cycles snowshoes may steadily become less useful, however they will remain valuable for off-trail travel in the high country well into February. Mike, You might want to use this one instead UPDATE Tuesday 10th January: Another minor and relatively warm storm is passing through our mountains today. Your contribution helps SGWA protect the Wilderness and educate visitors! The South Fork Trail is over 10 miles one-way. At the Peak on Thursday 22nd December 2022 at 0910 the air temperature was 39.9F (4C), with a windchill temperature of 30.4F (-1C), 13% relative humidity, and a light WNW wind sustained at 9 mph gusting to 13.8 mph. Trails above about 7500 ft currently remain lightly covered with patchy icy snow (more continuous above about 9000 ft). Comments Off on Updated El Dorado closure area. Current forecasts suggest that there may be significant snowfall on Sunday 29th-Monday 30th January at all elevations, but some warming and steady snow melt likely on either side of that date. Many hikers may find spikes are already useful, and will become increasingly so during and after this weekend with melting and compaction. Per "Tarol" 6-21-2011The Vivian Creek route is the most popular, South Fork is #2If you want a permit for Vivian for a dayhike on the weekend in the summertime, you must get it 3-4 weeks in advance. The Ernie Maxwell Scenic Trail has a well-traveled track to follow throughout its length, snow cover is about 80%. At this time there is no further significant precipitation forecast prior to mid February. 2020 San Gorgonio: Type of Hike: Overnight: Trailhead: South Fork: Hiking Companions: Hiked with a group: Road Conditions: Road suitable for all vehicles: Bug Status: No bugs: Snow Conditions: Trail snow-covered at times - Gear and expertise recommended: Trail Conditions: Obstacles on trail: Hiked up to Dry Lake and set up camp for an early . If you have found this Report useful, please consider using this link to the Donate page. 2-3 inches on 9th), Saddle Junction/approx. The USFS gate at Humber Park remains closed. South Ridge Road (5S11) remains closed to vehicle traffic. Long Valley at 8600 ft on the east slope received only about two inches of fresh snow. Go Hiking Trip Reports San Gorgonio Wilderness-California. Dutch Flat, at about 5600 ft elevation between Idyllwild and Pine Cove, recorded 0.86 inch of rain by 1300. This is frankly grossly misleading and in reality both trails no longer exist and are so completely overgrown I strongly advise hikers do not attempt to follow them. However the high country has been largely above this precipitation, with the sun even trying to peek out at times in Long Valley, and only about another inch of snow was added there this morning. At the Peak on Friday 2nd December 2022 at 1620 the air temperature was 26.2F (-3C), with a windchill temperature of 11.8F (-11C), 55% relative humidity, and a fresh WSW wind sustained at 8 mph gusting to 15.4 mph. Fresh snowfall, melting, and freeze/thaw cycles will all combine to change trail conditions and potentially the preferred equipment for the terrain over the next week or two. SNOW DEPTHS measured on 22nd-27th December 2022 are as follows. At San Jacinto Peak (10,810ft/3295m) on Monday 19th December 2022 at 0920 the air temperature was 31.3F (0C), with a windchill temperature of 20.7F (-6C), 9% relative humidity, and a light WNW wind sustained at 5 mph gusting to 9.9 mph. Spikes are recommended especially in the morning as the snow is now hard, compacted and very icy in places. Although my original track accurately followed the trail above Little Round Valley, there are now a fair number of alternate shortcut tracks across this slope, so cautious navigation is advised. At San Jacinto Peak (10,810ft/3295m) on Monday 28th November 2022 at 0855 the air temperature was 26.2F (-3C), with a windchill temperature of 8.8F (-13C), 11% relative humidity, and a sharp due West wind sustained at 17 mph gusting to 24.6 mph. Snowshoes will remain valuable anywhere off trail above about 8000 ft for the foreseeable future. By dusk today it had rained 0.68 inch in Idyllwild, and Long Valley had 1.5 inches of fresh snowfall. I recorded a short video discussion there (available here on YouTube) which gives a feel for current conditions. The Ernie Maxwell Trail is functionally clear of icy snow, although a few minor patches remain, especially close to Humber Park. The Ernie Maxwell Trail [surveyed 5th January] has patchy snow along its entire length, however it is largely clear for long sections, and the remaining snow is soft. SGWA lists the elevation gain from momyer creek trailhead to SG summit as 6,062'. When the gate is closed there are nine legal parking spaces this side of the locked gate (which still require an Adventure Pass or equivalent to be displayed). If you have found this Report useful, please consider using this link to the Donate page. Hikers who have an ice axe (and know how to use it) may find it useful in places on this short section of trail. Please allow at least 72 hours for processing of permits. There are layers of hard ice and firm icy snow beneath the fresh powder, and crampons are ideal at present everywhere above 9000 ft, lower in places. In Idyllwild (data from 5550 ft) there was 1.14 inches of rain on Sunday 11th which turned to snow that afternoon, settling to 0.5 inch. 3; 8; 3 months ago. Park here above the picnic area where there are a handful of parking spots. Every year seems to have its challenges and 2022 has been no exception. Every year seems to have its unique challenges and 2022 has been no exception. You don't hike alone. The 1714 sq.ft. I stubbornly kept on my snowshoes to 10,100 ft elevation on the Peak Trail, despite some lateral slipping as I traversed the icy snow slopes. Length 19.0 miElevation gain 5,492 ftRoute type Out & back. While we have to be grateful for any precipitation received given our rapidly warming mountain climate, it was not the significant snow-producing storm that had been generally forecast in recent days. This morning I broke South Ridge Trail to Tahquitz Peak. Trailhead directions: The trailhead is located on Jenks Lake Road, 2.5 miles from Highway 38. But I'm worried about him." The forecasts are very unsettled for the next week, but significant snowfall arrives on Saturday 31st (12+ inches expected in the high country) and may continue on/off until Friday 6th January 2023, potentially totaling 2-3 feet above 10,000 ft elevation. However excellent well-traveled and compacted tracks are now in place for most of the major trails (details below). Discover your local Girl Scout council: about Girl Scouts, what they do, what activities are available locally, and how to contact us. The State Park boundary is not marked but is near the site of the old Florians Cache, below Flat Rock. Devils Slide Trail is almost clear of icy snow to about 7700 ft although some extended dirty icy patches remain below that. An official website of the Spikes are especially valuable for descending even when they are no necessarily needed for ascending. As of this morning, I saw no other broken tracks on the high country trail system. Your contribution keeps the Report available to all, free from advertising or paywalls, and independent from agencies. Idyllwild received 2.75 inches, and I measured five inches at San Jacinto Peak on my hike through the storm this morning, with 3-4 inches at locations in between. Snowshoes are not required anywhere, as recent experience has shown that off-trail snow is now too shallow and/or patchy for snowshoes. The 0.4 mile section of South Ridge Trail between Chinquapin Flat/PCT and Tahquitz Peak has no steps to follow through the steeply angled icy snow. Forest Service campgrounds at Boulder Basin, Marion Mountain, and Fern Basin are now closed for the season. Storm number 20, and the last of a stunning first two months of 2023, produced another major snowfall with 10 inches overnight in Idyllwild, and it is still snowing heavily. Such warm conditions will soon be a distant memory. This is the flattest portion of the PCT in the San Jacinto mountains, and snow depth currently averages about 13 inches. Forecast models have a higher degree of confidence for the Tuesday storm than the storm next weekend. Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal are all options. Nevertheless, snowshoes will be valuable anywhere off trail above about 8000ft for the foreseeable future, and on trail where tracks have not yet been broken. San Bernardino Trail and Forsee Creek trails, along with the campsites near those trails, are still closed. Snowshoes are not currently advisable on these slopes due to the angle of the underlying ice. A double storm has been forecast as a possibility between Monday 28th November and Sunday 4th December. Reliable tracks are in place (at least) for Devils Slide Trail. It is possible they may deteriorate even further with some warming from direct sunlight. PCT Mile 181.8 (9070 ft): 0-1 inch (was 6 inches on 9th November), Deer Springs Trail at top of Marion Mountain Trail (8700 ft): 0-1 inch, Tahquitz Peak (north side trail, 8700 ft): 0-1 inch, Tahquitz Peak (south side trail, 8500-8700 ft): 0 inch, Long Valley (8600 ft): 0-1 inch (was 2-3 inches on 9th November), Strawberry Junction (8100 ft): 0 inch (was approx. After some early sleety drizzle it has been snowing in Long Valley (8600 ft) since late morning with 0.75 inch accumulating so far. Between the dustings of snow yesterday and today, high country tracks are becoming obscured and cautious navigation is strongly advised. To the Vivian Creek trailhead: From interstate 10 at Redlands take Highway 38 exit (Orange Street or University Avenue) north several blocks to Hwy 38 and turn right. Deer Springs Trail [updated 15th December] now has an accurate snowshoe track to follow all the way to San Jacinto Peak as I broke trail the entire way down to the Suicide Rock Trail junction on the afternoon of 15th. Official websites use .gov A .gov Also, Mill Creek RS phone number is now 909-382-2882 and they are closed Tues/Wed. They are not however required, depending upon your comfort level hiking on shallow variable snow, potentially mixed with slushy and icy patches, and on the quality of your footwear (tread grip, in particular). This trail has had limited hiker traffic since November 2018, largely because Dark Canyon Road has only been open for a few months since February 2019. This may mean rain and/or freezing rain as high as 10,000 ft, and challenging layers of icy or mixed snow/ice conditions at all elevations, including the possible melting of some or most preexisting snow below about 8000 ft due to rainfall. MLS #219090979 UPDATE Saturday 17th December 2022: Early this morning we hiked South Ridge Trail to Tahquitz Peak, and I broke trail from Tahquitz Peak to and from Chinquapin Flat through moderate snow. Snow cover is shallow up to about 7000 ft, but relatively heavy above 8000 ft. Currently spikes at a minimum, and ideally crampons, with an ice axe (and knowledge of how to use it), are strongly recommended. Despite warmer temperatures on some days, hikers should be prepared for temperatures near freezing in the high country, and generally below freezing when considering wind chill effects (see below for my recent weather observations from San Jacinto Peak). I put on my Kahtoola microspikes to descend from the Peak, ultimately leaving them on most of the way down Devils Slide Trail. As described above, crampons (always in conjunction with an ice axe) are currently recommended everywhere above about 8500 ft, and are strongly recommended on certain moderate and higher angle slopes, at a minimum on the Peak Trail above Wellman Divide, the Wellman Trail, Deer Springs Trail above Little Round Valley, and uppermost South Ridge Trail, on both flanks but especially on the north face of Tahquitz Peak. If there are Road Closed signs across Fern Valley Road at its junction with Forest Drive likely the case at least on weekends and holidays when significant snow is present then those nine spaces are also unavailable for legal parking. Some hikers may continue to find spikes useful for some of the minor icy patches but they are no longer required. Note that averages are given; due to strong winds accompanying storms there is extensive drifting. While many hundreds of hours of time and effort are volunteered every year, the San Jacinto Trail Report uses small private donations to help cover modest operating costs. However the precipitation amounts and probabilities for both storm systems have varied greatly in recent forecasts, and the models seem to be especially uncertain about details of the second storm (approx. That said, the cumulative effect of multiple systems is helpful to our moisture situation, and Tuesday 10th January saw the sixth storm in just over two weeks in the San Jacinto mountains (a timeline of the recent sequence of storms is available here in the previous Report). South Ridge Trail has been broken from the top of South Ridge Road to Tahquitz Peak with a simple posthole track. The number given is the current average total snow depth. Spitler Peak Trail had 10 new treefall hazards, almost all in the upper switchbacks. The traversing slopes above Wellmans Divide were very firm and relatively tricky in snowshoes, and some hikers may prefer to use spikes (or probably crampons) plus an ice axe above about 9800 ft. As I descended past Saddle Junction I was surprised not to see any other tracks as of early afternoon on Friday 6th, which I mention only because of the lack of broken trails this indicates. The permits can be obtained at the Ranger Station in Mentone, 34701 Mill Creek Rd. Hikers should be prepared for temperatures near or below freezing in the high country, and generally well below freezing when considering wind chill effects (see below for my recent weather observations from San Jacinto Peak). Spikes are useful but not strictly required for ascending, but most hikers will continue to find them very useful for descending. If there are Road Closed signs further down at the junction with Forest Drive sometimes the case at weekends and holidays when snow is present then those nine spaces are also unavailable for legal parking. Since the depths given in the previous Report, there had been very minor storms on 28th and 29th December, which added a couple of inches at the highest elevations, down to 0.5 inch at 8000 ft. These mileages were all recently revised by the USFS and SGWA: This is a popular trail for backpacking, hiking, and running, but you can still enjoy some solitude during quieter times of day. As I snowshoed down past 9000 ft elevation it was clear from a layer of ice underfoot that after a light snowfall, there had been rain on top of snow, before it started snowing again on top of that Sunday morning. on official, secure websites. Most significantly in terms of snow conditions daytime temperatures at all elevations will be well above freezing for about a week starting 20th. On the morning of Wednesday 15th February I ascended via the east side (Devils Slide, Wellman, Peak, and East Ridge routes), descending the western side via roughly Deer Springs Trail. Reserve and check availability on the San Gorgonio Wilderness Association website: Group size limited to 12 people and 8 pack/riding animals per group. Details of snow depths measured at various locations on the trail system are given at the foot of this posting. Despite recent sunshine, 'It's just a sheet of ice up there,' a rescue official says. 2-3 inches on 9th November), Saddle Junction/approx. Amounts listed may 10 inches on 9th), Wellman Divide (9700 ft): 0-1 inch (was 4 inches on 9th), Annies Junction/approx. Coldwell Banker. As always after storms in the San Jacinto range be aware of considerable ice fall from overhead trees. website belongs to an official government organization in the The Wellman Trail from Annies Junction to Wellman Divide has about 20% icy snow cover. It continued to drizzle in Idyllwild all day, slowly accumulating to about 0.25 inch of rain. Thank you for taking the time to read this. Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal are all options. San Gorgonio Peak via Vivian Creek Trail Directions: Precipitation at the elevation of Idyllwild fell largely as rain (1.79 inches) before turning to thunder snow starting at 1235 on Sunday afternoon (currently accumulated to 1.5 inch but still snowing as I write this). Although the snow is not particularly deep (10-12 inches) it is heavily drifted and steeply angled, and has at least one ice layer underneath the fresh powder. The PCT throughout the San Jacinto mountains (roughly Miles 207-151) has a clear track to follow, including Fuller Ridge Trail, which has been traversed by a handful of sobo PCT hikers. IMPORTANT UPDATE Thursday 26th January 2023: The State Park has announced that Skyline Trail is closed with immediate effect due to hazardous conditions above the State Park boundary (5800 ft elevation). The shortest way to the summit, and the most popular, is the Vivian Creek Trail. Snowshoes are very strongly recommended for any trails in, or leading to, the high country. For those that are unclear, the Skyline Trail is the first segment of the C2C (Cactus to clouds) from Palm Springs up to Grubbs Notch (Long Valley). While all time and labor is volunteered, the San Jacinto Trail Report uses small private donations to cover costs. At about 10K feet we began seeing our fist snow obstructing the trail. The Wellman Trail from Annies Junction to Wellman Divide has about 40% icy snow cover. A weather system, possibly in two waves across a broad time window between 2nd and 5th December, is currently forecast to produce light precipitation at all elevations, including a possible dusting of snow in the high country [update 1st December: no precipitation is now expected from these storms passing to the north of us]. Relatively little snow is therefore expected throughout the mid elevations including Idyllwild. Accumulation so far of about 0.5 inch in Idyllwild, and one inch at Long Valley. Temperatures will climb steadily this week and be well above seasonal for at least 21st-28th December. Trip Report By. 9.1 miles one-way. Forecasts indicate we will get a few more inches of snow overnight on 2nd-3rd January, and again on Thursday 5th January. Similarly, Long Valley (8600ft) added about two inches overnight for a storm total of about seven inches and a current total depth of about 15 inches. Two ascents of San Jacinto Peak in three days had challenging snow and weather, but both were hugely enjoyable. It was near-whiteout conditions due to wild spindrift above Wellman Divide, but the new snow was firm and overall made for good snowshoeing conditions. The second week of January is expected to be relatively warm and sunny, so extensive melting will start, especially at mid elevations.

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